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Offline skidder

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450 or 500 Class electric helis
« on: August 20, 2011, 07:59:23 PM »
What are some thoughts about the Blade 450 Pro for an intermediate heli pilot. I'm not necessarily hooked on the Blade but I do want customer service when needed and Horizon Hobby has been good at working with me.

I would prefer a 500 class, for the size and stability, but my budget is around $300.00 so that's not gonna happen. I am looking for a reliable good flying heli that is 3D ready/capable and flies solid.

Also what is the difference between the Blade 400 and 450 pro?

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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 08:29:47 PM »
save a few more bucks and get one of these......     go nitro   also  has em for 430  with free  shipping !!!!!!  http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/2_382_383/products_id/201804/n/Align-T-Rex-500E-Super-Combo-Kit-w-Motor-ESC-4-Servos-Gyro-Carbon-Fiber-Blades

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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 09:17:50 PM »
What are some thoughts about the Blade 450 Pro for an intermediate heli pilot.

This is a good choice for a 450, especially if you do not already have a programmable radio since this comes with one (dx6i).  Yes, Horizon has good customer service as well.

I would prefer a 500 class, for the size and stability, but my budget is around $300.00 so that's not gonna happen. I am looking for a reliable good flying heli that is 3D ready/capable and flies solid.


If you are looking for a TOTAL price around $300 you aren't going to find anything in the 500 class near this unless you go with cheap clone stuff across the board including transmitters, etc.  The super combos for TREX 500 are tough to beat for initial price. But don't forget you ARE going to crash, and the TREX prices for replacement parts are significantly higher than the 450 class.  If you are able to find a way to come up with some more $$ initially, I can recommend a great alternative in the 500 size (see below.)

Also what is the difference between the Blade 400 and 450 pro?

The blade 450 is a newer version with slightly upgraded mechanics, and better electronics for 3D. Same motor.  Same pricing most places. Get the 450 unless you see a crazy deal on the 400.  Here is a link to the blade 450 on amainhobbies.com:

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/2_382_708/products_id/201230/n/Blade-450-3D-RTF-Electric-Helicopter

You can use the following coupon to knock off $25 :  DPPAN1125

Last but not least, if you wanted to spend a little more to get a 500 class, I would recommend this one:

http://helidirect.com/msh-protos-500-plastic-kit-with-scorpionmotygeescsabblades-p-22446.hdx

This kit comes with a scorpion motor, SAB blades (expensive, high quality blades) and a YGE speed control (second in quality only to Kontronik.) The ESC alone is worth $140, the blades $60 and the motor $70.  This heli is heads and shoulders above a TREX, and the replacement parts are closer to 450 prices than 500.  Of course you will have to buy electronics including transmitter/receiver but over time its worth it.

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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 09:22:36 PM »
One other option -- GAUI sells the basic edition of their 500 size really cheap, but this is the real deal its not a clone.  This is perhaps the best way to get into 500 size for a little less $$   

link ==>  http://rcdumbthumbs.com/G-204399.aspx 

This place is out of stock but search around there are a number of places selling them at this price.
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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 09:42:07 AM »
I have to agree with TC for the cash a 450 is the best route. There are many good clones to choose from and parts are everywhere. Shopping around you can find good parts at very cheap prices. For a 500 the battery price alone is quite high for my liking, not to mention the parts prices. I believe you could own 2 good 450's for the price and maintenance of 1 500.
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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 02:05:12 PM »
+1 for TC
 For the money this is the way to go not only will you have a more stable flight platform but for a measly 80 bucks more investment you can have a 550 size heli its just an upgrade to this heli  this one gets my vote
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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011, 03:22:28 PM »
check these  out....  for  499.    free  shipping   you  can  have  this   600......   i  hear  they  are  pretty  good...  may  be  my next heli  ...  they  are  out  of  stock  right  now  though....http://www.scaleflying.com/Chaos-600-Limited-Edition-Super-Combo-Kit-with-Electronics--Includes-FREE-Nano-Gyro-PT9_p_1795.html

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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 05:20:22 PM »
I have had several of these 450's http://www.valuehobby.com/products.php?category_id=46 .  I say several because I got ballsy, tried some things I shouldn't have, planted it in the ground, then went and just bought a whole new frame for less than the individual parts would have been to repair it.  I have liked my 450 from there and plan to get a 500 from there in the near future.
I don't know what you have for a radio, but I fly Spektrum.  I am using a clone RX (OrangeRX) which has worked fine.  I use servos, esc, motor and batteries from Value Hobby.  I don't do anything hard core and it all works fine for me.
I recently built a HK600.  It's a nice heli, but batteries are the killer.  I am looking forward to building a 500 both for size and battery cost.

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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2011, 05:42:27 PM »
hey daytimer...  i  have  not  tried  there heli s  but  i  do  have  several of  there  lipos.....  from  value hobby.....   i  have  i  2200    3  cell  i  use  on  my  450 s  and    a  couple  3300  6 cell   i  use  on  my  550....  they  are  good  lipos  and  also  they  come  with deans  plugs  on  them.....no  need  for  soldering  !!!!!

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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2011, 01:55:04 AM »
If you have 300$ go with a 450 clone its gonna be cheap to repair  and you can put your own cheap electronics on it and cous its a CP its sooo much more stable.All the people in Croatia started with a CP (450 Clone/T-Rex,Protos 500 or a T-Rex 600) Only about 10 people started with a FP.

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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2011, 07:42:19 PM »
 :thank-you: There's a lot of good advice here. I'm using a DX61 spectrum Tx. Since I've only been flying since January this year I think I'll prob stay with the 450 pro and work on my 3D skills the rest of the summer and then invest in a 500 or 600 after X-mas. At least the parts will be less expensive which will help till I get better skills. Lots of choices out there. Thanks for all the help!  :130:

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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2011, 01:36:29 AM »
:thank-you: There's a lot of good advice here. I'm using a DX61 spectrum Tx. Since I've only been flying since January this year I think I'll prob stay with the 450 pro and work on my 3D skills the rest of the summer and then invest in a 500 or 600 after X-mas. At least the parts will be less expensive which will help till I get better skills. Lots of choices out there. Thanks for all the help!  :130:
Try buying a clone(then you can buy the 600) after xmas and as you crash it replace it with align parts and before you know it you have and Align T-Rex 600

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Re: 450 or 500 Class electric helis
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2011, 11:34:36 AM »
For anyone on the fence, here is a great opportunity. Someone is selling their MSH protos in the RCGroups forum.  I don't know this seller and I can't vouch for it, but I just thought I would point it out here since some people might want to take a look:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1493075

$485 includes all electronics, spares, battery, motor, blades.  Basically its bind-n-fly spektrum. 
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CX450 SEv2 - DS410M cyclic, scorpion 2221-8/60Amp, Quark+MKS8910 tail
LAHeli Ricco - YGE ESC, Quark+MKS tail